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[Vurfer]

The camera does sound a little different than without a cartridge, but not more different than I'd expect. Can I send you a short sound sample from my 4008?

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[ulrichsd]

Pedro,

I ordered 20 rolls of film early in the summer (May 2001, I think), and have used 2 of the rolls and both have had this problem. I was afraid that maybe it had been because I had stored them in refrigeration, although they were stored unopen and I allowed plenty of time for them to reach room temperature before opening.

So does anyone know if I can send them all back, unused? It would be horribley incovenient to have to go through a few cartridges each time reloading before being able to shoot.

Also, does anyone know how much this affects the film transport and final image? Does the end product look unstable or is it not very noticeable. Although the flucuating noise the cartridge makes is very loud and annoying.

I finally sent the 2 cartridges in to Walmart for developing yesterday. If you look at the additional services thingy they have at the store it list motion picture film and says return time is 2 weeks. And the price is less than $5 per roll. Not bad.

Scott

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[#Pedro]

Vurfer:
feel free to send it to me... But I have no 4008 to compare, so you should sample both, empty camera and with film, under identical recording conditions. If you want, we can exchange phone/address (Munich!!!).

Yesterday I shot a roll in the 9008, and it run very smooth, nearly no diferent noise with or without film. Dangerous is the "clicking" noise. Even if making the film of such a cart run again, beating it on the ground or advancing it by hand, the pic steadyness will be terrible. Sent it back.

Critical is the other problem of the cart, which doen?t result in another kind of noise, but in a high frequent trembling of the pic. I beat EVERY cart a few times hard on the ground, to release the loops and clean the gate before loading, hopefully avoiding that kind of problem.

UlrichSD:
I would not return films which are unopened only for suspect. Even when Kodak will replace them, this behaviour would be a financial disaster for K40 and dangerous for the continuity of this great stock.

Pedro

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[This message has been edited by #Pedro (edited November 28, 2001).]

[Mikko]

Just got mail from the chief of Kodaks movieproducts in Finland.
I sended that Pedros letter to him and asked if he knows something about it.
He wrote that he heard about that few days ago and the fault was only in VISION 200T S8 films. K40 film should not have this problem, but since all S8 films sold in Europe are packed in to cartridges in France, it's possible.
He also wrote that he knows for sure that Kodak is investigateing this very hard right now.

Mikko

One thing he wrote, has nothing to do with this but got me thinking...
Is that S8 film is used quite a lot in surveilance cameras around the world. Even today!
Does anybody know more about this? Yes, there was a stock called Surveilance film berore Vision 200T came out, but still...seems quite funny.

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[#Pedro]

the film was/is used for that kind of cameras, as the capacity is very high (about 3240 frames per cart) and the detail reproduction/chance to identify persons is much better than that of digital systems, considering the number of possible frames vs. resolution. Maybe, that with the very latesd dig cameras this will be relativated in future.
Pedro

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